Scam or not?? - Guild Wars Forums

GODh · Oct 10, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

More and more i see people selling Unidentified Runes of Superior Vigor... they ask 50K for it (39K at trader atm). The extra K was for unlocking it for PVP. Even if this isnt considered scam then i still think it is a bad buy

Even when people able to indentify an unidentified rune, then that is something only the seller can know. In that case it is probably easy to sell any gold piece of armor as a superior rune of vigor (imo pure scam)

Is this even possible? And do we do consider this scam or not??

Fungus Amongus · Oct 10, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

You can salvage a rune before identifying it. The picture will tell you what rune it is. People will pay a bit more simply to be able to unlock the rune.

Not a scam.

LuckyGiant · Oct 10, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

Superior vigor is unique so you can tell its superior vigor if its in the rune form, if it's in armor you cannot tell what it is.

Secondly people have the right bo put whatever price they want on something, whether people buy it or not is another story which will cause the drop in price anyhow.

Opeth11 · Oct 10, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

I do believe that the Superior Vigor looks like a minor rune.

I can't remember =_=

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 10, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

As long as the person is actually selling a Sup. Vigor Rune, and the person buying it wants to spend that much for it, then no, it's not a scam.

And no, Sup Vigor runes don't look like minor runes. What distinguishes them from other runes is that when you salvage them out of armor before IDing them, the discription will just be "Rune" where profession specific runes will say "Monk rune" (or whatever)

dargon · Oct 10, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Like Kook said, Vigor runes don't look like minor runes, there is a nice useful chart on Guildwiki

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Runes

Shadowfox1125 · Oct 10, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

I'd rather buy the already identified one and then unlock it through the Priests of Balthazar..

Sala Adin · Oct 10, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Myself i would not pay for something thats not identified. Some people do buy unindentified items, but like Fungus Amongus said some will pay a lil more to unlock it

but 50k for an unindentified rune is a bit high. The person was prolly hope to catch a noob and rip him off.

GODh · Oct 10, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47

Thanks for the info people... I play this game for 1 year now and and i am still learning

I guess i owe an apology to that guy as i called him a scammer (another lesson learned)

Aera · Oct 10, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

They used to do this in the early stages of GW when you hardly got any faction from winning things and it took ages to unlock. Nowadays it doesn't take that long anymore so not many people sell them unidentified anymore ( another point closer towards your wisdom title

)

Carth` · Oct 10, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Is it really worth it to unlock for PvP? Faction rewards guy doesn't care whether you are unlocking a superior beast mastery or a superior vigor, it's the same price, you get 2000 points easily. I wouldn't waste PvE money on it.

Eviance · Oct 10, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

When I sell an UnIDed Sup Vigor I sell it for the trader asking price. Its not worth more than that in my opinion even for the unlock. If its already IDed it should be sold for halfway between the asking and buy back price of the rune trader. Simple as that!

And I was called a scammer once, but the gal got pwned by local chat and thusly she not only appologised to me but bought the rune lol. It's an honest mistake truthfully.

Tentigers · Oct 11, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

I farm ettins from time to time over the last few months...Im sure we all have at 1 point. We all know how sometimes we get an ettin hide thats blue, purple, or gold. And of course, you want to salvage it to get the rune thats there. Heres my point........whether its blue, purple or gold (WITHOUT IDENTIFYING IT) it will say mesmer, warrior, ele, etc.... But when it comes to vigor runes, blue, purple or gold, it just says RUNE on it. Thats how you can tell if its a Vigor rune, because all the other runes identify a class (before you ID it). Im sure some or most of you vets have realised this...of course

Da Scotty · Oct 11, 2006, 02:10 PM // 14:10

This is an excellent thread and should be pinned. Even after playing for over a year I have always stayed away from UNIDED RUNES. After all that the only person who lost out was me...

I HATE THAT

Ole Man Bourbon · Oct 11, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Gotta love people calling others "scammers" for no good reason.

Me: WTS Parchment 60g each
Them: OMG YOU SCAMMER NUB! OLE MAN BOURBON IS A SCAMMAR!

PanGammon · Oct 11, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Well buying UNID Gold Armor sets is better than buying unid runes and you sometimes have a chance of pulling a monk rune or vigor rune................... and yes most people would rather farm 1k faction then pay 11k for a rune unlock..

Lord Aro · Oct 11, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

I've had no problems selling them for +5k the market price. Selling them for a crazy amount over that price can be mean to the ebayers.

Sofonisba · Oct 11, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanGammon

Well buying UNID Gold Armor sets is better than buying unid runes and you sometimes have a chance of pulling a monk rune or vigor rune................... and yes most people would rather farm 1k faction then pay 11k for a rune unlock..

Then again, there may be lots and lots of PvE people getting tired and wanting to break into PvP. They got tons o' cash and nothing else to spend it on? Just speculating.

But I'm with Eviance. Charge the same as buying a Sup Vig from the trader. It's no discount for the buyer, but if they were buying a Sup Vig anyway, they get a good bonus and you get a good price.

I've been called a scammer noob also, I end up showing the unID rune to people who call me this. As soon as they've seen it, they know immediately and apologize.

Reason I am not that miffed about it, is because most of these people are just attempting to look out for others, not primarily trying to harrass me.

Oct 10, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#1
GODh Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: BFTW and DLRR	Scam or not?? More and more i see people selling Unidentified Runes of Superior Vigor... they ask 50K for it (39K at trader atm). The extra K was for unlocking it for PVP. Even if this isnt considered scam then i still think it is a bad buy Even when people able to indentify an unidentified rune, then that is something only the seller can know. In that case it is probably easy to sell any gold piece of armor as a superior rune of vigor (imo pure scam) Is this even possible? And do we do consider this scam or not??

Oct 10, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47	#9
GODh Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: BFTW and DLRR	Thanks for the info people... I play this game for 1 year now and and i am still learning I guess i owe an apology to that guy as i called him a scammer (another lesson learned) Last edited by GODh; Oct 11, 2006 at 01:22 PM // 13:22..

Oct 11, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47	#13
Tentigers Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: E/N	My 2 cents I farm ettins from time to time over the last few months...Im sure we all have at 1 point. We all know how sometimes we get an ettin hide thats blue, purple, or gold. And of course, you want to salvage it to get the rune thats there. Heres my point........whether its blue, purple or gold (WITHOUT IDENTIFYING IT) it will say mesmer, warrior, ele, etc.... But when it comes to vigor runes, blue, purple or gold, it just says RUNE on it. Thats how you can tell if its a Vigor rune, because all the other runes identify a class (before you ID it). Im sure some or most of you vets have realised this...of course

Oct 11, 2006, 02:10 PM // 14:10	#14
Da Scotty Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London UK Guild: TTR Profession: N/Me	Thank you This is an excellent thread and should be pinned. Even after playing for over a year I have always stayed away from UNIDED RUNES. After all that the only person who lost out was me... I HATE THAT

Oct 10, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26	#2
Fungus Amongus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] \| [Rare] Alliance	You can salvage a rune before identifying it. The picture will tell you what rune it is. People will pay a bit more simply to be able to unlock the rune. Not a scam.

Oct 10, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27	#3
LuckyGiant Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Guild: Retired :)	Superior vigor is unique so you can tell its superior vigor if its in the rune form, if it's in armor you cannot tell what it is. Secondly people have the right bo put whatever price they want on something, whether people buy it or not is another story which will cause the drop in price anyhow.

Oct 10, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46	#4
Opeth11 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada Guild: Demon of the Fall [Opet] Profession: Mo/Me	I do believe that the Superior Vigor looks like a minor rune. I can't remember =_=

Oct 10, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09	#5
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	As long as the person is actually selling a Sup. Vigor Rune, and the person buying it wants to spend that much for it, then no, it's not a scam. And no, Sup Vigor runes don't look like minor runes. What distinguishes them from other runes is that when you salvage them out of armor before IDing them, the discription will just be "Rune" where profession specific runes will say "Monk rune" (or whatever)

Oct 10, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35	#6
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Like Kook said, Vigor runes don't look like minor runes, there is a nice useful chart on Guildwiki http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Runes

Oct 10, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47	#7
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	I'd rather buy the already identified one and then unlock it through the Priests of Balthazar..

Oct 10, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26	#8
Sala Adin Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Troublesome UNIT Profession: Mo/Me	Myself i would not pay for something thats not identified. Some people do buy unindentified items, but like Fungus Amongus said some will pay a lil more to unlock it but 50k for an unindentified rune is a bit high. The person was prolly hope to catch a noob and rip him off.

Oct 10, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40	#10
Aera Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm] Profession: E/	They used to do this in the early stages of GW when you hardly got any faction from winning things and it took ages to unlock. Nowadays it doesn't take that long anymore so not many people sell them unidentified anymore ( another point closer towards your wisdom title )

Oct 10, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40	#11
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	Is it really worth it to unlock for PvP? Faction rewards guy doesn't care whether you are unlocking a superior beast mastery or a superior vigor, it's the same price, you get 2000 points easily. I wouldn't waste PvE money on it.

Oct 10, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53	#12
Eviance Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Eh I forget... o_O Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/	When I sell an UnIDed Sup Vigor I sell it for the trader asking price. Its not worth more than that in my opinion even for the unlock. If its already IDed it should be sold for halfway between the asking and buy back price of the rune trader. Simple as that! And I was called a scammer once, but the gal got pwned by local chat and thusly she not only appologised to me but bought the rune lol. It's an honest mistake truthfully.

Oct 11, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18	#15
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	Gotta love people calling others "scammers" for no good reason. Me: WTS Parchment 60g each Them: OMG YOU SCAMMER NUB! OLE MAN BOURBON IS A SCAMMAR!

Oct 11, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36	#16
PanGammon Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Underworld Guild: Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG] Profession: Mo/Me	Well buying UNID Gold Armor sets is better than buying unid runes and you sometimes have a chance of pulling a monk rune or vigor rune................... and yes most people would rather farm 1k faction then pay 11k for a rune unlock..

Oct 11, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38	#17
Lord Aro Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: /wiki user:aro Guild: DBU Profession: E/	I've had no problems selling them for +5k the market price. Selling them for a crazy amount over that price can be mean to the ebayers.